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AMD Motherboards : X399 Taichi Bios 2.30 / TR 1950x

September 14, 2018, 4:57 pm
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Author: lemarcus
Subject: X399 Taichi Bios 2.30 / TR 1950x
Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 11:57pm

Hello

just a short question. I am running Win 10 Pro 1803 with Taichi X399 on Bios 2.0 with no problems.
Does the Bios 2.30 brings any new features other than preparation for further bios updates?
I read its a bridge bios but what does this mean? Any bugs fixes / feature enhancements for TR 1950x. Should i update only to have the possibility to upgrade my CPU in the future to TR 2 ?

Thanks
lemarcus
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AMD Motherboards : Why are asrock so slow with updates

September 14, 2018, 8:23 pm
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Author: ket
Subject: Why are asrock so slow with updates
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 3:23am

Originally posted by robmcc83 robmcc83 wrote:

I have had such a unpleasant experience buying my first asrock motherboard.
I've had issues since day one and some have been fixed with latest bios update but why do these take so long, other manufactures had the update in April and I've only just got mine :(
Another example is driver updates, I have a a320m hdv board, which on the asrock site now has quite old drivers, again I go onto other manufactures websites, select a board with the same chipset and they all have upto date drivers.
It's wrong that I have given my money to asrock but have to use another manufactures website to get the latest updates.
And I still have unanswered questions regarding the power management of my setup as changing power plan options within Windows does not change the processor speed at all, it always still fluctuates even though I want it to run at 100%.
Asrock after sales support in my opinion is zero percent. It's unexpectable


I probably can't fully answer all of your questions but bare with me and we'll get through all of your issues.

1. I can't speak for your specific board but I have owned a lot of Asrock boards, 890FX, P67, P68, Z77, X370, and now X470 chipset based boards and always found firmware updates to be pretty good for these boards usually arriving quicker than most other manufacturers. A little inside tidbit I can say is that Asrock do tend to test their firmwares more vigourously than other manufacturers (which is why you'll find far less posts here from people about firmware updates that bricked their board vs. other manufacturers) so if there is some delay this is why. Quality takes time.

2. I have never, ever, used drivers available from a mainboard manufacturers page they tend to always be out dated your best bet is to do as I do; go directly to the manufacturers website that makes the component you are looking for the latest drivers for ;)

3. What problems have you been experiencing? If you give me as many details as I can I can pass them on to my contacts to look in to for you.
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AMD Motherboards : Why are asrock so slow with updates

September 14, 2018, 8:28 pm
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Author: ket
Subject: Why are asrock so slow with updates
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 3:28am

Originally posted by fnordie fnordie wrote:

+1

i read all the time Asrock has bad bios. i was thinking its only "bad" designed grafics wise and maybe some cryptic options without explaination.. i would be fine with that, i dont care for bios looks. but it seems it is full of bugs.


my am3 board from asrock was much better bios wise.



on my x470 gaming k4 the fan controller is not working in default settings (cpu fan!) im not alone see

PBO has only enabe and disable (no levels) disabled i get 50 mhz less so i think this is not working as intendet. also enabled is really HOT on the cpu

no LLC?

RGB software is a joke too (customize adressabe features? boring pre programmed patterns)

when i bought the board it had the FALSE advertising still online. i really thought i get the IR VRM parts... oh they just realised their error after the video on youtube and discussion on reddit.

also PWM over temp protection is faulty (better said non existend)

i wish i would have got the asus x470..

ASROCK YOU LOST A LOYAL CUSTOMER!




Can you start a new thread detailing the bugs you have encountered and options you'd like to see the K4 have? I can then hash out some of the details with you, hopefully resolve at least some of the problems you are having and pass the link along to my Asrock contacts for them to look at and sort out any remaining issues you might have Thumbs Up
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AMD Motherboards : X399 board Maximum RAM

September 14, 2018, 9:32 pm
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Author: ASRockRocks
Subject: X399 board Maximum RAM
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 4:32am

Hello, Is the 128GB RAM limit electrical or BIOS or ...? With the new 2990WX the per thread memory amount is not very large. If the Taichi will never (or can't) support more, is there a MOBO on the horizon that can accommodate substantial amounts of memory? (FYI, My server has 512GB and I also own multiple Tachi MOBOs) 

Thanks
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AMD Motherboards : ASRock x399 Taichi usb 3.1 gen 2 slow transfer

September 15, 2018, 1:03 pm
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Author: G4nd4lf
Subject: ASRock x399 Taichi usb 3.1 gen 2 slow transfer
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 8:03pm

tried reinstalling windows its still slow transfer

what setting have i changed in the bios any1 with a x399 taichi that can help plz???
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AMD Motherboards : Why are asrock so slow with updates

September 15, 2018, 2:49 pm
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Author: ket
Subject: Why are asrock so slow with updates
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 9:49pm

Originally posted by Reinvented Reinvented wrote:

Don't need to get Realtek audio drivers from a third party when Microsoft Update Catalog has them available and are pushed as they are released.  


Softpedia is an official download portal, and often more regularly updated than the MU Catalog, as you can see HERE. The MU Catalog also only tends to have barebones drivers with no installers or accompanying software that may come as part of the driver package, Softpedia does Cool

Originally posted by robmcc83 robmcc83 wrote:

Originally posted by Reinvented Reinvented wrote:

Originally posted by ket ket wrote:

Originally posted by robmcc83 robmcc83 wrote:



Firstly in regards to the bios updates, I had the dreaded problem of the gpu underclocking on the and ryzen 3 2200g. I believe this problem was fixed on agesa 1.0.0.2
Now that update came out April time and other board manufactures had this available the same month but for my board from asrock the bios update only came out last week so a 5 month wait compared to others is a long wait no matter how much you try and justify that asrock test them more, that's to long for a problem that was making my system almost unusable for what I needed it for.
There was a beta bios added to support in May but this did not work for me. Kodi froze up my system on starting this program using this bios but no other bios version caused this problem.
So basically I purchased this a320m-hdv board 6 months ago and I'm now only just able to use it for what I purchased it for after waiting 5 months for this update which other manufactures released 5 months ago! (Surely you can see my anger towards asrock based in this)

Secondly regarding drivers, I use to get my drivers direct from manufacture but have had a couple of problems with missing chipset drivers in the past by doing it this way, downloading from manufacture has solved this.
Also it appears realtek no longer update the hd audio driver no more as it's a old version on there site.
But again this is my point regarding slow updates, if say I go to msi for example and choose one of there a320 chipset boards they have upto date drivers that match the version on the manufactures website.

Thirdly my last problem I'm still trying to figure out is the power management.
I have the a320m-hdv board with a ryzen 3 2200g and changing power plans does not have any change on the processor speed.
I have high performance, amd ryzen balanced, normal balanced and power save.
I would assume selecting high performance the processor should run at full power but it doesn't.
The amd ryzen balanced is suppose to idle at 90% but it doesn't.
Basically my processor idles at 1.5ghz no matter what power plan is selected which suggest to me it's not working.
In the past I've always set up all my computers to high performance and they have always ran 100% (verified by cpu-z).
I like it that way, my computer is only on when I use it so don't need to power save.
I mainly use my computer for photo editing with Adobe lightroom but also do a little light gaming.
Since having this new build I have a occasional lag within lightroom that I believe is down to the processor constantly changing clock speed. Every so often I get the blue circle and lightroom says it's not responding for a few seconds then comes back to life. It's kind of annoying as my old build does not do this.
I've even fresh installed Windows 10 on the old and new build in the exactly the same way with only lightroom installed.
Only difference is the old build when I select high performance power plan the cpu actually stays at 100%.
The old build has a amd Athlon x4 641 cpu with half the amount of ram and just seems to perform better.
I feel as though I've just wasted my money.


1. That is a long wait? I'm not sure why you had to wait so long a quick check on the A320M-HDV page shows firmware updates have been coming pretty thick and fast, every couple months or so. In all honesty you haven't missed anything with AMDs AGESA 1002a it was very, very buggy. The latest 1004C from AMD is very solid though.

2. Realtek do release updated drivers still bizarrely not on their website though instead you can find them HERE. Personally I've never had an instance where the drivers coming direct from source have been missing parts.

3. That is odd, I've never heard of a power plan issue quite like that. Not owning a 2200G I'm shooting from the hip a bit here but some suggestions;

- Set power plan to high performance in Windows > click "Change plan settings" > click "change advanced power settings".

- Go to "Processor power management" > scroll to the minimum and maximum processor states, are both of them set to 100%?

Secondly, download firmware 3.4 and 4.9 from HERE If you are already running firmware 3.4 then skip downloading that and download 4.9. Extract the archive and place the firmware image on a FAT formatted USB stick, reboot, enter the firmware and update to 4.9 via Instant Flash. If you aren running a firmware older than 3.4 you MUST update to 3.4 before updating to 4.9.

If the above doesn't work theres a few more things you can try search the firmware for and change the following;

Increase shared memory to at least 1G (if nothing else you'll have a smoother gaming experience)
See if you have a C6 mode option in the firmware, if so disable it
Look for an option labelled PSPP (PCIe Speed Power Policy) if you have one, set it to "Performance"
Look for the HPET Table option, disable it

Let me know how that goes.



Don't need to get Realtek audio drivers from a third party when Microsoft Update Catalog has them available and are pushed as they are released.??


So in response to all of this I can confirm I already have bios version 4.90 this is the update that came out 9 days ago with the agesa update 1.0.0.4
The last agesa update to my board was back in march and was only 1.0.0.1 which still had these gpu problems, according to amd forum they were fixed with amd agesa update 1.0.0.2 which is what I keep saying about other manufactures applying the update to there boards april/May time.
So asrock released agesa update March then September that's actually 6 months I had to wait for this update to fix my problems and I can confirm that now using the latest bios version all gpu glitches have now gone but I still have this annoying power management problem.
My high performance power plan is at min/max cpu state 100%, that's not the problem
My gpu shared memory has always been at 1gb
I don't have any c6 state options in the bios.
Pspp is already on performance.
And HPET is already disabled.

Still Windows power plans have no effect what's so ever.

But thanks for the info regarding the realtek drivers


Hmm, your issue is beginning to get mysterious at this point. Have you kept Task Manager open to monitor CPU usage to try and identify anything using an unusually high amount of CPU cycles at these "stalling points"? Do these stalls only happen when editing or when gaming as well? I'd also remove any chipset drivers you might be currently using and download the chipset drivers from amd.com. It would also be worth running HCI memtest and a BOINC scientific project to check CPU and memory stability just to make sure theres no problems there and check what your CPU temps are when these stalls happen as the CPU might be throttling itself. You could also try disabling CPB and manually setting CPU frequency and voltage in the firmware to see if that makes a difference.




Edited by ket - 13 hours 15 minutes ago at 10:20pm
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AMD Motherboards : x399 2950x PCIe settings for LSI HBA

September 15, 2018, 9:34 pm
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Author: blurb2m
Subject: x399 2950x PCIe settings for LSI HBA
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 4:34am

I have been able to get my system to function pretty well since last nights build but my LSI 9211-8i HBA card is running VERY slow. I'm getting 8.7MB/s write speeds.

I am trying to find any information I can on the PCIe Slot Configuration and the different modes.
x399 Taichi
Threadripper 2950x
32GB GSkill 3200 (B-Die) RAM Dual Channel
I have a GTX 1050 in Slot 1
LSI 9211-8i in Slot 2 (Card is x8 PCIe 2.0

BIOS Config: Advanced/AMD PBS
PCIe x16 Switch - Auto
Promontory PCIe Switch - Auto
NVMe RAID mode - Disabled
PCIe Slot1 Configuration  - x16 Mode
PCIe Slot2 Configuration - x8 Mode
PCIe Slot4 Configuration - x16 Mode
PCIe Slot5 Configuration - x8 Mode

What is the x4x4 Mode on Slot2?
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AMD Motherboards : X399 Taichi Bios 2.30 / TR 1950x

September 15, 2018, 9:39 pm
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Author: SoniC
Subject: X399 Taichi Bios 2.30 / TR 1950x
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 4:39am

If you are on X1950 and it runs you memory full speed without any problems then stay on 2.00 :-)
Never touch a running system. Wink

Bridge BIOS doesn't bring substantial changes and it is a preparation for the 3.xx BIOS branch (with a new AGESA supporting the ZEN2 CPUs). 
As far as I can tell 3.10 and 3.20 improved my memory compatibility and 3.30 and 3.23 borked it again ;-)

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AMD Motherboards : X470 taichi error 46

September 16, 2018, 12:51 am
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Author: drkstorm1
Subject: X470 taichi error 46
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 7:51am

 Just build my new system and can't get it to display or do anything and all i get is error 46 on the motherboard.. From what i'm  seeing that error usually a ram issue of some kind. My ram is compatible with the motherboard if i read the Asrock compatibility form correctly.  I checked all my connections,tried both ram sticks in different slots and reset cmos more then once. Even with my ram removed entirely i still get error 46 which someone said somewhere might make it a motherboard issue?

Grateful for any help/support. TY
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AMD Motherboards : AB350 Pro4 not posting

September 16, 2018, 2:10 am
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Author: Toasty582
Subject: AB350 Pro4 not posting
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 9:10am

This has been fixed. CPU Power was plugged in incorrectly
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AMD Motherboards : x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos

September 16, 2018, 2:40 am
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Author: ssateneth
Subject: x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 9:40am

Configuration is Asrock taichi x399, BIOS L3.32, Ryzen Threadripper 2950X, GSKILL F4-3600C17Q-64GTZKW (4 x 16GB samsung b-die, XMP rated to 3600MHz 17-19-19-39 2T), EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3, Samsung Pro 950 512GB NVME SSD, Samsung Pro 850 2TB SATA SSD, ASUS MG279Q Monitor (27" 2560x1440 144hz Freesync model, IPS panel)

The Fail Count setting has been fixed on BIOS L3.32 so that is good.

I am unable to create a video about UEFI resolution stuck at 1024 x 768. For me, it may be a hardware configuration incompatibility as loading UEFI defaults still results in 1024 x 768. The only options for the UEFI HD resolution is "Auto" and "Disabled".


Odd CAS timing with geardown mode (GDM) disabled (Command rate 1T or 2T does not matter) with RAM speeds 2933 or higher cause NO POST at POST code 15. RAM tests known good at CAS latency 16 and 18, but no POST at CAS 17. I already know GDM on with odd CAS latency automatically rounds odd CAS timing up to the next even CAS timing (17 -> 18) Here is video documenting the issue 

RAM Speed 2866 GDM on, tests good CAS 16, 17, 18. GDM off, tests good CAS 16, 17, 18 @ command rate 1T and 2T

RAM Speed 2933 and 3200 GDM on, tests good CAS 16, 17, 18. GDM off, tests good CAS 16, 18 @ command rate 1T and 2T. POST FAIL at CAS 17 with either command rate 1T or 2T



Loading saved UEFI settings is still an issue on BIOS L3.32. Screen goes black and computer becomes unresponsive except caps/scroll/num lock keys and ctrl + alt + del to restart. It is an intermittent issue and hard to reproduce consistently. I have made a video with my experience. Here is video link of my experience  as well as steps I did to reproduce.

Load UEFI defaults and save profile 1 as "UEFI Defaults" and restart

Go back into UEFI and change settings as follow

Boot tab > Setup Prompt timeout > 10 | boot beep > On | full screen logo > Disabled | Above 4g decoding > enabled

Security tab > secure boot > enabled

h/w monitor > cpu fan 1 setting > customize >monitor m/b >  numbers from top to bottom for cpu fan 1 : 50, 55, 60, 55, 60, 55, 75, 80, 80

advanced > southbridge configuration > wan radio > disabled | bt on/off > disabled

advanced > storage configuration > sata hot plug > disabled

advanced > amd cbs > DF common options > memory interleaving > channel

advanced > active page on entry > OC tweaker

Save user default > select profile 2 > name it "test"

save settings and restart

go back into UEFI > load user default > select UEFI defaults > results in black screen. sometimes it comes back, other times it stays black screen unresponsive.


also there is another issue. setting "Above 4G decoding" causes POST hang on code B2 and beep code 1, pause, 3 beeps, 3 beeps, unless secure boot is manually set to enabled as well. requires cmos reset to restore working state. see video here.

I have not had the time to test Rtt resistance settings, and software tools used to read that setting have not yet been updated to be compatible with the 3.xx series of BIOS/UEFI.

I have not yet re-tested P-state overclocks, partly due to new second generation threadripper and precision boost overdrive replacing p-state overclock for me.



Edited by ssateneth - 30 minutes ago at 11:05am
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AMD Motherboards : x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos

September 16, 2018, 3:37 am
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Author: kerberos_20
Subject: x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 10:37am

to use 64bit (>4G) adressing space, all your hardware (add-in cards) has to be in UEFI compatible
if u using some legacy hardware which doesnt have uefi compatible rom/bios, it will fail with b2 post code

for resolution higher than 1024x768 u will need to disable CSM, so bios wont load int10h driver (legacy vga), but will use gop driver from your gpu bios
but for CSM to be disabled, again...all your hardware (add-in cards) has be to UEFI compatible


saving bios profiles was never working on any recent asrock boards...kinda sad


Edited by kerberos_20 - 58 minutes ago at 10:37am
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AMD Motherboards : x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos

September 16, 2018, 3:57 am
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Author: ssateneth
Subject: x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 10:57am

revision for the saving profile black screen. it turns out if you disable CSM, this is the cause of black screen on loading saved profile settings. since i found the root cause, i can avoid it for now and saved settings works with the workaround. see video here

as far as "decode above 4g" issue, the only devices added to the system are samsung 950 pro nvme ssd, samsung 850 pro sata ssd, and geforce gtx 1080 ti which has a gop driver (otherwise it wouldnt post with secure boot on). like i said in the video, the decode above 4g issue only comes up if secure boot is not enabled too. if you enable it manually, it works fine. the fix would be to force secure boot on if decode above 4g is enabled.

also secure boot on = csm automaticlaly disabled anyways, especially if decode above 4g enabled (there is no more csm), so the fault still exists for hd resolution not working on hd monitor and hd capable  graphics card


Edited by ssateneth - 29 minutes ago at 11:06am
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AMD Motherboards : b450m mobo fan control does not work

September 16, 2018, 4:26 am
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Author: Taxxi
Subject: b450m mobo fan control does not work
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 11:26am

I've built my first build with Ryzen 2600X + ASRock B450M Pro4 mobo, and I found out that the cooler & fan speed wasn't following the prescribed value at the UEFI. So here are some tests I've done:


  1. CPU cooler 65% at 50C, 80% at 57C, 90% at 63C, and 100% at 70C, but when testing with OCCT and RealBench, the fan speed doesn't bump up until the CPU temp reaches 82~83C, and it is not even 100% it starts with 80%.

  2. Now if I put 100% at 50C, the CPU fan starts running crazy so I guess the controlling system works at least with the first phase.

  3. I thought the fan controlling system was lagging so I put the CPU temp near 60~70C using RealBench benchmark, but the cooler just remains silent, no speed bumping whatsoever.


So I guess either the HWMonitor is reading a wrong temp or the fan control system is not working, but I think the temp is right (32~34C at idle, -100mv vcore offset). This is really annoying. I tried A-tuning but it didn't work either. I'm using the latest BIOS (ver 1.2).


Any idea or solution would be appreciated. Thanks in advance :)


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AMD Motherboards : x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos

September 16, 2018, 5:33 am
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Author: kerberos_20
Subject: x399 taichi multiple issues w/ videos
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 12:33pm

from HD screens only 1920x1080 is supported, if your GPU detects your screen as full HD capable
so if u dont get 1920x1080, than your GPU doesnt read EDID
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AMD Motherboards : X370 Taichi Debug 00

September 16, 2018, 5:59 am
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Author: shmerl
Subject: X370 Taichi Debug 00
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 12:59pm

You should probably RMA the motherboard.
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AMD Motherboards : Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 - Fan Control doesn't work

September 16, 2018, 10:17 am
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Author: Dr@gonXP
Subject: Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 - Fan Control doesn't work
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 5:17pm

Hi All,

Experienced an issue with my Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, the Fan Control is not working.
I have adjusted the temperatures & fan speeds in the UEFI, saved and restarted.
Used a stress test tool (aida64) and temperatures increased, but the fan speeds stayed constant.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Dr@gonXP
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock AB350 pro4 Ryzen 1600 no post

September 16, 2018, 11:57 am
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Author: Scottkist
Subject: Asrock AB350 pro4 Ryzen 1600 no post
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 6:57pm

Well I finally got it it post. Tried a different pcie slot and it worked. But that has me worried that pcie slot is bad
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock AB350 pro4 Ryzen 1600 no post

September 16, 2018, 1:04 pm
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Author: datonyb
Subject: Asrock AB350 pro4 Ryzen 1600 no post
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 8:04pm

what gpu is it ?
info like that would help us help you

anyways
for now try updating the bios ,and look to check you have csm enabled in the bios
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AMD Motherboards : Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 - Fan Control doesn't work

September 16, 2018, 1:06 pm
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Author: datonyb
Subject: Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 - Fan Control doesn't work
Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 8:06pm

set fan monitoring to tctl
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