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AMD Motherboards : 990FX Extreme 3 + FX 8350 + 4x HX318C10FBK

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Author: kabellabr
Subject: 990FX Extreme 3 + FX 8350 + 4x HX318C10FBK
Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 9:40pm

Tried de CPUZ configuration

Tried to tier down the memory to 1600 without success... Reading more and will try at 1333 later today

AMD Motherboards : [SOLVED] Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming ITX/ac + RX Vega 56

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Author: 1d10t
Subject: [SOLVED] Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming ITX/ac + RX Vega 56
Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 9:59pm

Note to ASRock engineer : Make a good ITX board would ya?

AMD Motherboards : Asrock AB350 Fatality Gaming K4 Overclocking issue

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Author: enhancer
Subject: Asrock AB350 Fatality Gaming K4 Overclocking issue
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:00am

Hey Pablidito,
I had the same problem and daytonb helped me solve it. Here's the link:
http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6865&KW=&PID=40740&title=agesa-1007-woes#40740

AMD Motherboards : X370 Taichi build advise

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Author: thanosb
Subject: X370 Taichi build advise
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:08am

Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

thanosb, I would suggest you not start with memory that is not qualified.  datonyb is the memory person here and I strongly recommend you listen.  I think you are way too concerned about the rumor of processor problems and RMAs.  If you are planning on running Linux then perhaps but not W10 (only officially supported OS).  Both my R7 1800X and TR 1950X are very early releases and never had a problem with the processors.  Enjoy, John.

Hi John
Of course I'm going to listen to datonyb and other forum users. You are more experienced and your opinions are valuable to me.

Actually I'm a Linux From Scratch user and I need the computer to compile open source projects with many parallel jobs on a tmpfs (ramdisk), so I think that my concern about a real problem and not rumor IMO, is justified. Thanks, Thanos.

AMD Motherboards : X370 Taichi build advise

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Author: thanosb
Subject: X370 Taichi build advise
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 2:18am

Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

i would work off the basis of making sure my ram sticks were samsung b dies myself

allthough now with later bios revisions we are seeing more stable support for lesser ic chips on the ram sticks

heres a link of ram and what actual dies make it up, as said the preferred choice is to buy ram using samsung B die

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/?st=j8yvhzyy&sh=2bdbd4a0

Hi datonyb and thanks for the info. Firstly let me account for my mobo and ram choices (that I should have done from the beginning, sorry for that).

The technician that will do the assembly recommended both Taichi and Patriot. I think that Taichi is considered to be a mobo for overclockers. The reasons I chose it however are the overall quality (see my reply to @MisterJ@ for the purpose of this build) and ram compatibility. As for the 2800 - 3200MHz ram frequencies, they are due to various references I read on the internet that ryzens are more stable with higher  frequency ram.

That said, my goal is firstly stability and secondly speed. I have no intention to overclock cpu and ram  to gain speed at the expense of stability and reliability. What is your opinion about the mobo and ram choices in relation to the aforementioned computer use and goals?

From the reddit link I come to the conclusion that Samsung B die rams are over 2800 MHz. Is that correct? What is your opinion about 2400 - 2666MHz ram for this build?

Thanks, Thanos.

AMD Motherboards : X370 Taichi build advise

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Author: datonyb
Subject: X370 Taichi build advise
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 2:57am

well to answer the few points in a broader covering reply

the samsung b die from day one has been the least painful ram to run with the taichi

as with most ryzens and amd am4 chipsets

the reason its b die at is really 3200 upwards is because any other dies seems to struggle on intel or amd over 3200mhz (with sensible sub timings anyway) compared to hynix etc which must have much higher/looser timings

and then you require 32gb

which would have to be carefully choosen 4 x 8gb single sided ram sticks OR 2x16gb double sided

the old rule of more ic's (chips) to control the harder it is on the cpu's IMC comes into force here

the thing is the ryzen cpu does really like ram running at 3000+ mhz to optimise its own internal clocks (the infinity fabric)  in a similar way the older amd chips liked a nice high northbridge

sure it will work with lower speed ram, but i would still advise the old saying 'buy cheap - buy twice'

as far as motherboards go the taichi does indeed seem to be very forgiving about ram compared to others in its price range (we wont discuss my quirk of extreme fortune on a friends cheap msi b350 board and an insane stable overclock of his cheap ram)

at the end of the day no-one can give you 100% sure fire choice of parts, and we see that with all the manufactures boards not always running the qvl ram at advertised tested speeds

but i do know the best chance does seem to come in the samsung b dies flavour

as for stability ive had the taichi for over 6 months now with gskill tridentz 3200-cl15 2x8gb sticks

aside from my morbid interest to see how far it can go, its never played up once at anything which should run as advertised, this even goes back to the luanch time bios versions where hardly anyone got over 3000 mhz ram stable, mine just worked at 3200 after clicking the xmp button Smile

no crashes no lags no boot issues (the worst it done was auto change the cl15 cas to cl16) and carried onto boot cleanly

this was/is an issue with the amd agesa not wanting to use 'odd' numbered cas settings (there is a workaround, but isnt actually needed with decent ram, as you just lower it down to cl14 as is my case)

as for the patriot ram ?
who knows if its using the samsung b dies im sure it will behave the same as the rest

a clue can be found that if the primary timings are all equal it usually is

eg @ 3200 cl16/16/16/16 or cl14/14/14/14 etc ,this would not be sure fire but a good indication
and the size of the ic's means it;ll have to be an 8gb single sided or 16gb double sided stick

i hope this helps but may well have left more indecision in your choice

if your getting someone else to build it for you ,then there is also the fact if you go with his choice then he can be the one to worry about getting it running

maybe discuss some of the findings you have made with him ?

he may have had good experiance with patriot ram before (as i have had some years ago on intels) and is leaning towards that brand, i bought gskill for this build due to being able to confirm 100% the kit i choose was b dies (also never have they been on the taichi qvl)
in the past i used to favour corsair xms ram as a certain quaility and compatability ,alas corsair seems a bad choice for ryzen systems now

as i said have a chat with your system builder advise him what you have read maybe hes not that used to ryzen systems yet and might be glad you pointed out some experianced posts on the internet

AMD Motherboards : 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4

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Author: Flandar
Subject: 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 4:33am

Hi,
I trying to install two GPU card on my AB350 Gaming K4 motherboard. 
Firs i tryed to pun one card by time. This card which is on primary PCIE slot is wokring, secound not working .  Power cables are connecter correctly.
My system
Ryzen R5 1700
Windows 10 64
GPU1 Nvidia 1080
GPU2 Nvidia 1070
I deinstall every graphics driver and instaled latest NVIDIA driver - not work.
I update my bios ( overcloking is gone but watever) not working.
I plug my DVI cable on second GPU but monitor didn't shou noting on boot or windows.
The compuer work very stable but don't find scound GPU. I don't use SLI.
I tryed some bios option but didn't help.
Any sugestiong will be very appriciated. 


AMD Motherboards : Cannot overclock Ryzen 1700X after new BIOS update

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Author: EGN
Subject: Cannot overclock Ryzen 1700X after new BIOS update
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 6:39am

Vakich
Spasibo

AMD Motherboards : 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4

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Author: delukz
Subject: 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 8:30am

Apart from your problem, A R7 1700, 1080 and 1070 on a 550W PSU does not sound like a wise idea.

My R5 1600 and 1080ti already can consume up to 500W.



Edited by delukz - 3 hours 13 minutes ago at 8:31am

AMD Motherboards : usb keyboard incompatible

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Author: pauloderezende
Subject: usb keyboard incompatible
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 8:36am

i'm having trouble in configure usb and ps/2 keyboards with fm2a68m-dg3+p2.60 bios, in 76m0xb422625 motherboard, with windows 10. The keyboards seem crazy... usb is worst. i'm going crazy too! Can someone help me? i tried all options possible in bios, but the keyboard don't work.

AMD Motherboards : X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi

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Author: Sixus
Subject: X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 10:09am

X399 Fatality
1950x Threadripper
4x16gb 3600 TridentZ
1TB M.2 960 EVO
EVGA 750 PSU
650Ti EVGA GPU
Current Windows 10 OS

I'm on my second board with the same WiFi issue.

Will not connect whatsoever. Doesn't recognize any network, acts if there is an external WiFi network switch that is disabled. I can flip the WiFi on in network settings. It will be on but not recognize any networks. I updated all drivers with the disc. From my research it may be linked to me using my m.2 as my boot drive? Is there a link between WiFi issues with AMD processors and m.2 malfunction? Thanks in advance

Edited by Sixus - 1 hour 34 minutes ago at 10:10am

AMD Motherboards : usb keyboard incompatible

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Author: parsec
Subject: usb keyboard incompatible
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 10:37am

Originally posted by pauloderezende pauloderezende wrote:

i'm having trouble in configure usb and ps/2 keyboards with fm2a68m-dg3+p2.60 bios, in 76m0xb422625 motherboard, with windows 10. The keyboards seem crazy... usb is worst. i'm going crazy too! Can someone help me? i tried all options possible in bios, but the keyboard don't work.


You list the FM2A68M-DG3+ board, but I have no idea what "76m0xb422625" is or means.

The default USB option settings in the UEFI/BIOS should allow any keyboard to work. The Legacy USB Support option should be set to Auto. If you haven't cleared the UEFI/BIOS yet, do that with the board's jumper, or at least try the Load UEFI Defaults option in the Exit screen.

The 2.60 UEFI/BIOS version has been available for almost two years, so if it had a basic problem with the USB ports and keyboards, that would have been known by now.

It's not clear if you have Windows 10 installed yet or not. Did you do a new, fresh Windows 10 installation, or did you do an upgrade?

If Windows 10 is installed, did you check the Device Manager entries for the USB ports and controllers? Did you install the AMD all in 1 driver ver:15.20.1065 chipset drivers from your board's download page:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A68M-DG3+/index.asp#Download

So both a PS2 and USB keyboard will not work at all with your board? There is no response on the monitor when you type? Is this the first time you are using this board? You purchased it new?

Windows 10 will only use its built in USB 3.0 driver for ALL of the USB ports. At least during a Windows 10 installation, you should use the USB 2.0 ports for a keyboard. The PS2 port should also work fine with a PS2 keyboard.

What keyboards are you using?


AMD Motherboards : X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi

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Author: parsec
Subject: X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 11:24am

Originally posted by Sixus Sixus wrote:

X399 Fatality
1950x Threadripper
4x16gb 3600 TridentZ
1TB M.2 960 EVO
EVGA 750 PSU
650Ti EVGA GPU
Current Windows 10 OS

I'm on my second board with the same WiFi issue.

Will not connect whatsoever. Doesn't recognize any network, acts if there is an external WiFi network switch that is disabled. I can flip the WiFi on in network settings. It will be on but not recognize any networks. I updated all drivers with the disc. From my research it may be linked to me using my m.2 as my boot drive? Is there a link between WiFi issues with AMD processors and m.2 malfunction? Thanks in advance


Never heard of using an M.2 SSD causing WiFi issues, if you have links to that information, I'd like to see it. I'm using an M.2 SSD (same as yours) in my ASRock AMD X370 board, which has WiFi like your board, and it works fine. Unless that is supposed to be strictly related to X399 boards.

The WiFi is provided by an Intel WiFi M.2 card that is not permanently connected to the board. It is hidden under the shroud that covers the IO panel on the top left side of the board. I assume both antennas are connected at the IO panel?

Can other PCs connect to your WiFi network in the same location that your X399 PC is in your house?

Did you check the Device Manager entry for the WiFi card, under Network Adapters? Any error codes or is the device working properly? The Advanced option tab allows configurations that might help.

Did you open Network and Sharing Center in Windows, with the WiFi on, and use the Set up a new connection or network option?

The latest Intel WiFi driver can be found on this page:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27309/Intel-PROSet-Wireless-Software-and-Drivers-for-Windows-10?product=83418



Edited by parsec - 17 minutes ago at 11:27am

AMD Motherboards : X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi

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Author: Sixus
Subject: X399 Fatal1ty no WiFi
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 11:58am


Never heard of using an M.2 SSD causing WiFi issues, if you have links to that information, I'd like to see it. I'm using an M.2 SSD (same as yours) in my ASRock AMD X370 board, which has WiFi like your board, and it works fine. Unless that is supposed to be strictly related to X399 boards.

--- I cannot find the posting that I found regarding the issue, but what it explained is that there are two pins on the m.2 wifi adapters that this individual was taping to block connections of two of the pins. The two pins specified allowed the adapter to remain "always on"


The WiFi is provided by an Intel WiFi M.2 card that is not permanently connected to the board. It is hidden under the shroud that covers the IO panel on the top left side of the board. I assume both antennas are connected at the IO panel?

--- Yes the antennas are both attached properly

Can other PCs connect to your WiFi network in the same location that your X399 PC is in your house?

--- All of my units are using the wifi just fine. The issue is that my computer doesn't even allow me to look for networks.

Did you check the Device Manager entry for the WiFi card, under Network Adapters? Any error codes or is the device working properly? The Advanced option tab allows configurations that might help.

--- trying to attach or upload a screenshot.

Did you open Network and Sharing Center in Windows, with the WiFi on, and use the Set up a new connection or network option?

--- The adapter won't flip on, so it's not recognized.

The latest Intel WiFi driver can be found on this page:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27309/Intel-PROSet-Wireless-Software-and-Drivers-for-Windows-10?product=83418

--- Thank you! I updated it to current. Though still having the same issue. It's acting as if there were an external physical switch for the wifi adapter.




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AMD Motherboards : X399 Taichi CPU Temperature

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Author: underthedog
Subject: X399 Taichi CPU Temperature
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:08pm

I wonder if anyone knows or has a guess why the UEFI for the X399 Taichi motherboard displays CPU temperature at high levels 60-70 degrees, while OS software sensors show nothing as high as that.
I use ArchLinux; the sysfs filesystem, which is used for hardware device-specific items, only shows:


nct6779-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
Vcore:                  +0.71 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:                    +1.09 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
AVCC:                   +3.33 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+3.3V:                  +3.33 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
in4:                    +1.86 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in5:                    +0.91 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in6:                    +1.21 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
3VSB:                   +3.47 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
Vbat:                   +3.28 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.63 V)
in9:                    +0.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
in10:                   +0.87 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in11:                   +0.90 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in12:                   +1.68 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in13:                   +0.91 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in14:                   +0.94 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
fan1:                  1134 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:                  1450 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan3:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:                  1157 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan5:                  1120 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
SYSTIN:                 +28.0°C  (high =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)  ALARM  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                 +30.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +15.0°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:                +33.0°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +31.0°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +29.0°C    sensor = thermistor
PCH_CHIP_CPU_MAX_TEMP:   +0.0°C 
PCH_CHIP_TEMP:           +0.0°C 
PCH_CPU_TEMP:            +0.0°C 
PCH_MCH_TEMP:            +0.0°C 
intrusion0:            ALARM
intrusion1:            ALARM
beep_enable:           disabled

amdgpu-pci-4200
Adapter: PCI adapter
fan1:          25 RPM
temp1:        +33.0°C  (crit =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)

iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:            N/A

AMD Motherboards : X399 Taichi CPU Temperature

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Author: underthedog
Subject: X399 Taichi CPU Temperature
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:13pm

Based on other discussions, such as this one on reddit

Quote
CPUTIN is the socket temp (motherboard thermistor) and SYSTIN is the thermistor on the chipset. I forgot which AUXTIN1/2 is the vrm but there are a few on it. SMBUS is a digital reported CPU temperature which includes the offset, so you need to -27C for the 1950x and whatever the 1920x offset is.


I'm not sure why AMD CPUs or the Motherboard (?) doesn't adhere to existing standards; or, why the temperature input wouldn't be listed within sysfs.


AMD Motherboards : X399 Taichi CPU Temperature

AMD Motherboards : 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4

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Author: Flandar
Subject: 2 GPU on AB350 Gaming K4
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:52pm

Thank for your adivice. I know my PSU is weak. That way i tryed with other very week card Quadro K420. This card don't have additional PCIE power link and it's power consumation is very small.

AMD Motherboards : Beep codes after updating AB350 Pro4 to BIOS 4.20

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Author: dilacerated
Subject: Beep codes after updating AB350 Pro4 to BIOS 4.20
Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 2:45pm

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Glad you have the PC working, but what the true issue with the 4.20 UEFI version remains unknown. We don't know yet if your issue is isolated to the RX 480, or even the VBIOS used in your particular card. I have learned from experience in this forum that it is a mistake to come to a conclusion about an issue based upon the experience of one user. That certainly includes myself as one user's experience.

Got an email from ASRock's support this morning and offered to provide them the VBIOS of my card.  Haven't heard back.  Whatever the cause maybe I am the lone person to encounter this but other users are not the troubleshooting types (see user reviews on every etailer) so who knows.

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

I don't understand the implication that a video card that does not need extra power from the PSU is the reason it worked with the new UEFI version. If that were true, we would be seeing many other posts about issues like yours with this board and UEFI version. So far, hasn't happened. It also indicates that all video cards are not affected.

But your experience with an RX 480 and the 4.20 UEFI version is one data point that we will remember for future reference.

My reasoning for trying a card without external power was due to my RX 480 clearly getting power from the PCI-E slot as the fans powered on with the system.

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

The main and likely only purpose of the 4.20 UEFI update is stated in its description:

Update AGESA to 1.0.7.2 for upcoming processors.

AGESA 1.0.7.2 is the AMD AM4 processor microcode that is part of the UEFI/BIOS file. It is supplied to mother board manufactures by AMD. This AGESA update is known to require major changes in other UEFI code. That might be the source of the problem, or the AGESA update itself, which is a scary thought.

I'll work with ASRock support and get them whatever data they need.  I responded to the email from them within five minutes and then five to six business hours went by without a followup...  I'm also going to post this issue in AMD's forum given that the AGESA microcode comes from them (I knew that).  For now, though, I am back to loving my machine that I had feared I'd lost.
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